John Giduck must think that his customers are suckers. This is the only possibility when John Giduck clings to such an improbable timeline for arriving at the scene of the Beslan school siege and massacre on 5 September 2004.
From John Giduck’s own “misrepresentations, falsehoods and outright lies” department: here is what POW Network listed military poser John Giduck explains (once again) over on his “SOCNET Lies” site which he claims isn’t run by John Giduck but sure serves as his mouthpiece: (bold text below is mine for further discussion later)
In his own words, here is a quote given to us by Dr John Giduck about what prompted the trip:
“I woke up at 4:30 am Mountain Time on the morning of Sept 1, 2004. That made it 2:30 pm in Beslan and the school siege was on the news, having been going on since 9 am in Russia that morning. Later that afternoon [Admin note: 1 September], as evening came to Russia, it was clear that it was not going to resolve quickly. I talked to Andy (Special Forces Sgt Major John Anderson (ret.) and Archangel Group Chairman) about it and he said that he thought I needed to go, that with our contacts that we could obtain information from the spetsnaz that would be useful to the US government, law enforcement and military that we knew wasn’t coming from the media. Igor Livits (Soviet special operations veteran) had already been in contact with people in Russia we knew (spetsnaz) learning what he could, and it wasn’t jibing with the media reports.
I immediately got a visa application expressed through Fed Ex to the Russian consulate in NY. I paid the extra money for same day processing and pre-paid Fed Ex for its most expedited delivery, which meant it should have arrived here in the morning of Sept 3. It did not. Yuri, as a Ukrainian citizen did not need a visa. My visa ended up on some guy’s desk in Madison, Wisconsin. I had Fed Ex people, including a friend’s wife, calling all over trying to find it. It finally arrived late that day [Admin Note: supposedly 3 September], and Yuri and I flew out immediately.”
Now, let’s look at why the above timeline is so flawed and improbable that I can actually accept one improbable part as true and the timeline STILL does not work.
Keep the following in context while reading and interpreting the timeline:
[T]he Russian government announced that it would not use force to rescue the hostages, and negotiations towards a peaceful resolution took place on the first and second days…
1 SEPTEMBER 2004: John Giduck made his decision in the afternoon per his own version of events. FEDEX requires an 11am handoff time for “same day delivery”. That would mean that John Giduck would have had to get his sponsor information and all other paperwork together within hours to make an 11 am deadline. If John Giduck didn’t make the 11am deadline for handoff, the Russian consulate would not have received the request on 1 September. The timeline falls apart at that point because (even if the Russian Consulate processed the paperwork on 2 sept and sent it expedited overnight back to John Giduck in Denver, John Giduck’s own explanation shows that it would have been in Madison, WI on the afternoon of 3 September..too late for John Giduck to make a flight that landed in Moscow on 4 September.
But let’s assume for a minute that John Giduck was able to same day service the documents to the Russian Consulate in NYC – 3 hours ahead of him.
2 SEPTEMBER 2004: let’s assume that the Russian Consulate did somehow improbably receive John Giduck’s visa request on the late afternoon of 1 Sept and even more improbably process it on 1 Sept. The Russian consulate would have had to overnight it back to John Giduck for arrival on 2 September. But we know that they didn’t do that because John Giduck was expecting it back on the morning of 3 September. The Russian Consulate would have processed the paperwork during the day of 2 Sept and then sent it back via overnight on 2 September.
3 SEPTEMBER 2004: The package hadn’t arrived in the morning as promised in Denver (normally 9am delivery). Here is the problem: 9am in Denver is 11am in Madison, Wisconsin where the package inexplicably arrived. Now, we are faced with the question of how that visa paperwork went from Madison, WI to Denver in time for John Giduck to 1) receive it and 2) allow him to drive to the airport in time to depart on the last flight of the day for Mother Russia. Remember that we have made a number of assumptions just to get to this point. FEDEX would have had to retrieve the package (1 hour?) and get it back to the airport (1 hour?) then send it the 2 hours to Denver. This of course assumes no delays at all.
John Giduck says that the package finally arrived late on the 3rd of September. But “late in the day” would signify being too late to scoop up the visa and drive to the airport to make the 3:50pm arrival time required for a 5:50pm flight to Moscow and arrive on 4 September.
Below is the list of assumptions that would need to be true for John Giduck’s Giduck’s timeline to work as claimed. Each by itself is improbable – together, they form an end state that approaches improbability.
1) Between 0430 and 10am on 1 Sept 2004, John Giduck would have needed to receive word of the situation in Beslan and determined that there was a requirement to leave for Beslan immediately.
2) John Giduck would have needed to make the 11am deadline for FEDEX same day service to the Russian consulate in NY. John Giduck’s own version of events says that decision to leave came during the afternoon Denver time of 1 Sept 2004 – long after the FEDEX deadline for same day service. This FEDEX package from John Giduck would have had to included coordination with a sponsor who certainly would have had to fax documentation for the package and assembled ALL of the necessary documentation required for his visa (without anything missing). It isn’t clear from John Giduck’s own version if he sent the same day FEDEX on 1 or 2 Sept. A 2 Sept send date of the package to the Russian Consulate in NY makes the timeline even more improbable.
3) John Giduck would have had to indicate on his visa request every location that he intended to visit in Russia (Russia visas are not “open” – they have an specific entry date, specific exit date, and specific location(s) to be visited. Either John Giduck would have had to indicate “Beslan” as a destination or intentionally misled consulate officials on his official visa request as to his intended whereabouts over this particular visa’s entry and exit dates.
4) The Russian consulate would have had to review, process, and approve John Giduck’s visa application within 24 hours of receiving the application. Russia visas normally take weeks to approve….unless it was for someone like John Giduck that might already have a working relationship with Russian intelligence, of course.
5) The Russian consulate would have had to overnight John Giduck’s approved visa to his home (by John Giduck’s version of events, apparently sending the visa by mistake on 3 Sept 2004 to
some other Russian spy in Madison, WI)
6) The person in Madison, WI that mistakenly received the John Giduck approved visa would have had to immediately identify the lost visa for what it was and take action in order for the visa to be received in time for John Giduck to obtain the visa. Without that person’s involvement, FEDEX would have believed that the package was properly delivered and not proactively taken action. Given that madison is 2 hours ahead of Denver, it;s highly probable this notification took place in the late morning or early afternoon Madison time…in the absolute best case.
7) Assuming that the receiver of the missent package could be located, notified, and willing to take immediate action, there is a tiny window of perhaps 3-4 hours in the afternoon for the missent visa to have been correctly re-routed over the 977 miles between Madison, WI and Denver, CO for the rest of the timeline to work.
8) Unless John Giduck has some means of flying to the airport from his home, he would have needed enough time to drive to the Denver airport in time to catch his flight after receipt of the misrouted visa. John Giduck doesn’t live in Denver…if John Giduck flew from another CO airport to connect in Denver for his 3 Sept 2004 flight to Moscow, the timeline window doesn’t work.
9) Yuri would have needed to decide WTF his last name was going to be for this trip in order for Russian officials to allow him in his own country
EVERY one of the above steps would have needed to be met in order for John Giduck to have arrived in Moscow on 4 September 2004 and in Beslan on 5 September. Anyone else feel the improbability of John Giduck’s story now?
Even if all of those improbabilities were somehow met, as we’ve already discussed, John Giduck apparently didn’t even have a flight available from Moscow to Beslan on 5 September 2004.
The preponderance of evidence contrary to John Giduck’s version of events is growing. Only John Giduck can resolve this with hard evidence beyond “my partners at Archangel agree with my timeline”.
I call BS on John Giduck’s flawed and improbable timeline of arriving in Beslan anywhere near 5 September 2004. He simply could NOT have made it to Moscow on 4 September or to Beslan, Russia on 5 September given the obstacles in his own description of events from 1-5 September 2004. Only John Giduck can disprove what is otherwise highly compelling evidence against his arrival in Russia on 4 September.