John Giduck obviously has a communication problem. He must be among the most consistently misunderstood people in the world. This blog post demonstrates a classic John Giduck reaction to criticism of his work from back in 2006. I say classic because it is almost exactly the same reaction that John Giduck had to the Special Operations community when questioned about his credentials.
Long before “ripping off tax dollars by (not) claiming to be US Army Special Forces” was even a twinkle in POW Network listed military faker John Giduck‘s eye, people outside of the Special Forces community were raising questions about author John Giduck’s book, Terror At Beslan.The first questions about John Giduck’s activities and credentials appeared in 2005.
This blog post isn’t so much about about the content of John Giduck’s Oct 2006 editorial in response to a negative critique of his book, Terror At Beslan. It’s much more about John Giduck’s reaction to the criticism itself. I’ll leave the ridiculous content of the article for others to dissect.
Let’s get started….
The original article that criticized John Giduck’s Terror At Beslan was published on 6 Oct and actually was a simple response to a 4 Oct standard John Giduck standard drivel article about how Beslan is coming to the United States (Admi note: 8 years on now and it still hasn’t).
Now, let’s analyze John Giduck’s reaction in the form of a printed opinion piece. For reference, except as noted differently, all John Giduck quotes below are from this steaming pile
1) John Giduck starts by claiming that his statements are mischaracterized
When editorialist Gil Spencer’s piece of Oct. 7, 2006, was first forwarded to me I chuckled at the impressive job he did of re-crafting and misrepresenting our conversation
My, this sounds familiar. This is similar to first reactions when uncomfortable questions were raised about John Giduck’s false military claims. I wonder how long John Giduck has been successfully using that defense to relieve himself of things that he writes and that others have said about him.
2) John Giduck then feigns anger or outrage and
3) associates non-acceptance of his ideas as being against the safety of school children
Then when I realized he accomplished all this in a way that seemed more designed to make himself appear wise and reasoned, at the expense of the safety of the children of Delaware County, it made me angry.
Let’s put the above 2006 statement in context with 2007 & 2011. When unable to answer questions about his own operational credentials and military claims, John Giduck published a letter on SOCNETLies claiming to be “outraged”.
I am outraged.
I am outraged that other good and patriotic people are being attacked for no other reason than their association with me. These are people who have each in their own way, dedicated their professional and personal lives in the service of our country and deserve your and my unconditional support and thanks, not your malicious lies.
– 6 Feb 2012 post on John Giduck’s personal blog
John Giduck later sent his personal ball polishers like Chester PA Police Commissioner Joseph “Joe” Bail, Retired SGM John
“Judas” “Andy” Anderson, Has-been MSG Hetrick and convicted criminal John Mason to claim that it was somehow unpatriotic, unethical, and perhaps illegal to even question John Giduck’s credentials.
The only thing missing was the appeal for the safety of children in the case of defending his credentials….I think. Perhaps someone else can find these and post them in the comments if they exist.
4) John Giduck claims that one must read his book in order to understand that his ideas actually are somehow feasible and not craziness stemming from what someone with no operational experience might guess would be successful
It was clear throughout our discussion that he had never read my book, “Terror at Beslan,” at all.
The need to read (and presumably, purchase) John Giduck’s essentially self published book seems to be a consistent refrain. I dont think that one must purchase and read Terror at Beslan with downright craziness such as use of fire hoses in a CT scenario to understand that John Giduck does not have the operational or tactical background to comment on such subjects. This doesn’t even begin to address the Terror At Beslan’s fundamental factual inaccuracies.
5) John Giduck then redirects the argument
As to his insistence that schools are so safe, let’s look at some facts. Some real ones, not his version of reality. To begin, no one can compare school safety to anything else in society, as there is no other institution or facility that comes close to approximating the sheer numbers of children present, nor the quantity of time they spend there. So, Mr. Spencer, they’re safe compared to what?
All that is missing here is the claim that Mr Spencer is on some sort of “vendetta” or that there are more important enemies of our nation to be facing to make it like 2011/2012.
6) John Giduck then inserts a completely false statement into his discussion as cold fact to make his point.
below are the “facts. Some real ones...” that John Giduck references in para #5.
In the 2003-04 school year 44 children were murdered in our schools. Thirty-five died the following year and 26 the year after that. For the families of those children, Mr. Spencer’s statistics and assurances of safety are meaningless. So far this year – and we’re only at the beginning of this school year – 13 have died. This doesn’t include principals and teachers. Fifty years ago the numbers were zero.
Let’s look to see at the statistics for “50 years ago” ( I chose 1960-1969 but there are similar incidents for 1950-1959)
- February 2, 1960: Hartford City, Indiana Principal Leonard Redden shot and killed two teachers with a shotgun at William Reed Elementary School in Hartford City, Indiana, before fleeing into a remote forest, where he committed suicide.
- June 7, 1960: Blaine, Minnesota Lester Betts, a 40-year-old mail-carrier, walked into the office of 33-year-old principal Carson Hammond and shot him to death with a 12-gauge shotgun.
- October 17, 1961: Denver, Colorado Tennyson Beard, 14, got into an argument with William Hachmeister, 15, at Morey Junior High School. During the argument Beard pulled out a .38 caliber revolver and shot at Hachmeister, wounding him. A stray bullet also struck Deborah Faith Humphrey, 14, who died from her gunshot wound.
- August 1, 1966: University of Texas Massacre Charles Whitman climbs atop the observation deck at the University of Texas-Austin, killing 16 people and wounding 31 during a 96-minute shooting rampage.
- November 12, 1966: Mesa, Arizona Bob Smith, 18, took seven people hostage at Rose-Mar College of Beauty, a school for training beauticians. Smith ordered the hostages to lie down on the floor in a circle. He then proceeded to shoot them in the head with a 22-caliber pistol. Four women and a three-year-old girl died, one woman and a baby were injured but survived. Police arrested Smith after the massacre. Smith had reportedly admired Richard Speck and Charles Whitman.
- January 30, 1968: Miami, Florida 16-year-old Blanche Ward shot and killed fellow student Linda Lipscomb, 16, with a .22-caliber pistol at Miami Jackson High School. According to Ward, she was threatened with a razor by Lipscomb during an argument over a fountain pen, and in the ensuing struggle the gun went off.
- May 22, 1968: Miami, Florida Ernest Lee Grissom, a 15-year-old student at Drew Junior High School, shot and seriously wounded a teacher and a 13-year-old student after he had been reprimanded for causing a disturbance.
- January 17, 1969: Los Angeles, California Two student members of the Black Panther Party, Alprentice Carter and John Huggins, were fatally shot during a student meeting inside Campbell Hall at the University of California, Los Angeles. The motive of the shooting regarded who would own the school’s African American Studies Center. The shooter, Claude Hubert, was never to be found but three other men were arrested in connection with the shooting.
- November 19, 1969: Tomah, Wisconsin Principal Martin Mogensen is shot to death in his office by a 14-year-old boy armed with a 20 gauge shotgun.
Not quite “zero” as John Giduck claims in his rebuttal…but it sure sounded convincing. Yawn. We’ve seen this (as in “completely false claims and threats”) before…
As a “school safety” scholar and expert, you’d think that John Giduck might know that there was school shooting related violence going back to at least 1764 and there were a significant number in the 1950s and 1960s. Keep in mind that this was in a published opinion piece for which John Giduck had time to proof and review…not some live statement. Yet, he still threw it out there…
I guess it’s easier to simply throw in something made up when the truth doesn’t fit John Giduck’s reality. It also helps to have a circle of people around that tend not to fact check as long as the money comes in….much like John Giduck’s followers with regards to his operational credentials and military claims.
John Giduck has clearly been using the above “playbook” for some amount of time before he began his campaign against the special operations community in 2007.
My personal belief is that John Giduck left unchecked simply doesn’t change.