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Let’s take a look at LTC Dave Grossman’s claims of being a “Pulitzer Prize” nominee It would appear that there is the usual factual disconnect between what John Giduck’s most ardent supporters claim and what the facts appear to be.  There also seems to be the usual profit motive involved in the form of fooling police and military into buying books.

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First, I’ll start by saying that as a retired military field grade officer and former West Point professor, LTC Grossman knows the difference between truth, lying, and “quibbling” which is the use of evasive statements or technicalities….

Honor, as it is understood by the Corps of Cadets, is a fundamental attribute of character. Honor is a virtue which implies loyalty and courage, truthfulness and self respect, justice and generosity. Its underlying principle is truth. It is not a complicated system of ethics, but merely “honest dealing and clean thinking.” If a cadet is true in thought, word, and deed, there is no question about his meeting the standards of the Corps. On the other hand, quibbling, evasive statements, or the use of technicalities to conceal guilt are not tolerated at West Point.

– MG Maxwell Taylor, West Point Superintendent (http://www.west-point.org/users/usma1983/40768/docs/taylor.html)

LTC Grossman’s Claims of Being  A Pulitzer Prize Nominee

Dave Grossman’s official widely communicated narrative is that his book, “On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society” has been nominated for a Pulitzer Prize. This blog post will demonstrate that it is not.

You can find Grossman’s claims of being a Pulitzer Prize nominee all over the internet.  A quick google search of “grossman pulitzer prize” (without quotes) will generate more than 3 million search results including Amazon and many well known police/military web sites.  For simplicity, we’ll just stick with LTC Grossman’s false claims on his own website and other verifiable first person sources.

Here is a capture current as of this blog post from LTC Grossman’s bio page on his website, SheepdogSeminars.com

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Since that page can be easily changed, let’s look at several statements that LTC Grossman made to the New York State Legislature in 1999:

Statement of Lt Col Gave[sic] Grossman

Before the New York State Legislature
October 1999

I am Lt. Col. Dave Grossman, U.S. Army, (Retired). My expertise in the area of human aggression and violence includes service as a West Point psychology professor, a professor of military science, the author of a Pulitzer nominated book and numerous peer reviewed encyclopedia entries on this topic.

–snip–

The application of this to the military is outlined in my book, On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society. This book was nominated for the Pulitzer prize for nonfiction in 1995, has been translated into Japanese and Italian, and is currently being used as a standard text in numerous universities and academies, to include West Point, and the California Highway Patrol Academy.

http://www.thefreeradical.ca/research/statementOfDaveGrossman.html

So we have at least two clear statements that not only “On Killing” was nominated for a Pulitzer but also that it was nominated in 1995.

WHAT DOES PULITZER SAY A “NOMINEE” IS?

The Pulitzer website is very clear as to what a “nominee” is.  A “nominee” is defined as the following:

A Pulitzer Prize Winner may be an individual, a group of individuals, or a news organization’s staff.

Nominated Finalists are selected by the Nominating Juries for each category as finalists in the competition. The Pulitzer Prize Board generally selects the Pulitzer Prize Winners from the three nominated finalists in each category. The names of nominated finalists have been announced only since 1980. Work that has been submitted for Prize consideration but not chosen as either a nominated finalist or a winner is termed an entry or submission. No information on entrants is provided.

Since 1980, when we began to announce nominated finalists, we have used the term “nominee” for entrants who became finalists. We discourage someone saying he or she was “nominated” for a Pulitzer simply because an entry was sent to us.

http://www.pulitzer.org/faq#q23

By using the term “nominee” since at least 1999, LTC Grossman has been claiming to be one of the two non-fiction finalists for the award in 1995 as he claims. He isn’t.

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His name can’t be found in the entire list of 1995 winners or finalists which is here:

http://www.pulitzer.org/finalists/1995

Nor can LTC Dave Grossman’s name or published title be found at all in the entire Pulitzer online database covering back to the 1940s

http://www.pulitzer.org/faceted_search

try the search yourself….

WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO BE WHAT LTC GROSSMAN CLAIMS IS A NOMINEE?

Let’s look at another case to see how anyone can become an “entrant” which is what LTC Grossman claims is a “nominee”

An entry form and $50
It’s not uncommon for Pulitzer entrants to claim to be nominees. Here’s how it works: Though there are only three nominees, known as nominated finalists, in each Pulitzer category each year, there are more than 2,000 entrants. One could say that all of them were “nominated” by someone. If all Pulitzer entrants could be called nominees, any publisher could give all its authors that honorific by submitting an entry form and a check for $50.

The Pulitzer rules make clear that the only people to be known as nominees are those finalists chosen by the Pulitzer juries.

Besides violating the official rules, such claims mislead the public. Tell readers that you’re an Academy Awards nominee, and they’ll understand that you’re one of the few finalists, not one of the many entrants submitted by movie studios. It’s exactly the same with the Pulitzers.

And in addition to misleading the public, such false claims rob honor from the actual nominees.

 

http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/05/09/11608553-conservative-author-jonah-goldberg-drops-claim-of-two-pulitzer-nominations

 WHY IS THIS AMBIGUOUS CLAIM TROUBLING?

LTC Grossman is a well known trainer of police on a number of topics.  One would expect that police would expect the highest level of integrity from those that train peace officers.

– This claim of being a Pulitzer Proze nominee calls Mr. Grossman’s personal integrity into question. All someone did was pay $50 and fill out a form.  He’ll likely claim that he “didn’t know” as did Johah Greenburg in the MSNBC link above, but Mr Grossman is an academic and a former West Point professor.  As noted in the Pulitzer webpage FAQ, Pulitzer entrants have been told the difference between “entrants” and “nominees” since 1980.

– This is not the first time that Mr Grossman has “quibbled” about his credentials.  LTC Grossman claims to be an “airborne Ranger” (also clearly claimed in the statement to the NY Legistlature link), however, there is no evidence even from the LTC himself that he ever served in any of the three Ranger Battalions. He may be the only graduate of the 8 week Ranger course that doesn’t know the difference between an “Airborne Ranger” and a “Ranger School graduate”.  LTC Grossman also teaches about his self described science of “killology” yet has never served in combat or killed anyone.

– Mr Grossman apparently has had business associations with a similar group of people selling services to police and the government that seem to have similar integrity or actions that a layman can easily see as against the law.  John Giduck published a book in which he has first hand conversations about being in  Russia with the Beslan siege supposedly ongoing but actually was in Colorado at the time those conversations would have taken place.  John “Andy” Anderson, co founder of Archangel Group with John Giduck and who had made false claims to have been a high speed Department of Energy employee, also had conversations recorded by a journalist in which Mr. Andy Anderson appears to have provided defense advice in the Sudan in violation of ITAR statutes.  Joseph “Joe” Bail who serves as the Police Commissioner for Chester, PA and apparently received a $20,000 honorarium from Archangel Group that appears to be a violation of the PA State Ethics Act.  All three of these people are involved with Archangel Group which publishes Terror At Beslan which Mr. Grossman has sold and marketed at his seminars for years.

I’ll leave it to the reader to determine the whys of someone that sells books and training for a living to likely fudge the difference between paying $50 and filling out a form to being an actual Pulitzer Prize nominee. My opinion is if, like John Giduck, Mr. Grossman is knowing lying about his background to sell you books and seminars, what else is he lying about?  See the links below to learn more about the circle around that mutually promote and defend each other.

I still laugh about how cops pay a guy that never killed anyone for advice about killing.  How dumb is that? You may as well be sitting in a Grossman lecture about menstrual cramps.

We’ll have more on LTC Grossman coming soon.

SEE ALSO

Arrested! Archangel Group Consultant Ernie Manerchia Charged With Crime

How John Giduck Misleads You: Walter Chi Lies About John Giduck’s Legend

Giduck Of A Feather: John “Andy” Anderson Wasn’t A DOE Employee

John Giduck & Joe Bail: Timeline Supports $20k+ Honorarium For Consulting Services

 

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It’s always sad when one realizes that there is a huge PR machine that is focused on misleading you.  John Giduck has failed miserably in his attempt to build such a PR machine  through willing participants such as Archangel Group, Dave Grossman, John “Andy”  Anderson, Brad Thor, and the like to build and maintain John Giduck’s false legend.  The second order effects of this attempt resulted in a group of stooges that also signed on to assist in these efforts through social media.

Unfortunately, Walter Chi isn’t one of the stooges. He appears to be one of the perpetrators of the lies.  Let’s look to see how Walter Chi obviously attempted to mislead SOCNET about John Giduck, his experiences, and contributions. All quotes below are from http://socnet.com/showpost.php?p=858633&postcount=10 and attributable to Walter Chi at http://socnet.com/showpost.php?p=858660&postcount=15

No, John has never served in SF, nor any other U.S. Spec Ops unit, nor has he ever claimed that he did.

Actually, John Giduck’s speaker bios falsely indicate that he served in various US Special Operations units.  Only recently has John Giduck admitted to the evidence that he only served a total of 58 days in the US Army.

Much of what John has done for mankind on a global basis, and much of what he has risked and sacrificed personally for our nation and its warriors must remain untold for security reasons.

Funny how Mr Chi pulls the secrecy card.  sadly, it doesn’t work in the case of John Giduck.  Though John Giduck has falsely claimed at times to have held “our nation’s highest security clearance”, it is easily confirmed that John Giduck has never held a US Government security clearance and therefore never could been legitimately read into any classified US Government operations. This is a lie by Walter Chi to convince you that John Giduck is some sort of secret operator – the reality is that John Giduck sat on his ass in Colorado from 1990-2005 with a few vacations outside of the US of his own volition.

What this blog has discovered, however, are a series of activities that John Giduck likely isn’t very proud of.

John has worked, trained and studied in Russia – and the Soviet Union before that – for close to 20 years. He has spent many years developing relationships and working with Russia’s most elite Spetsnaz units, had spent time with each of those units that responded to the Beslan school siege,

John indeed attended several conferences in Russia and even studied there. To be clear, the university and program in Russia at which he clams to have studied also had a self study non-credit voluntary program  which students could attend for one day if they wanted.  It would fit John Giduck’s methodology and history of claims to have attended this voluntary program.  Perhaps this explains why  John Giduck has never presented his diploma from this school.

What Walter Chi fails to mention is that John Giduck’s “Spetsnaz contacts” were actually the result of attendance at a series of commercial military style adventure camps in Russia….operated by John Giduck’s own companies.

and [John Giduck] was, in fact, the only American outside of newsmedia to go immediately to the siege as it was taking place.

Ahhh, Walter Chi authoritatively tells “the first big lie”.  The big lie is that John Giduck immediately went to the Beslan School siege “as it was taking place”.  By his own revised account, John Giduck wasn’t anywhere near the Russia during the Beslan siege. John Giduck has yet to produce a shred of evidence that he was anywhere near the school even two weeks after the siege despite quotes in his book, Terror At Beslan, that claim that they spent days taking photos in the days after the siege.

The federal government has acknowledged that not a single U.S. representative was dispatched to that site from the embassy in Moscow, and even two weeks after the siege, Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge admitted publicly that all of their information was from newsmedia sources.

Here Walter Chi authoritatively tells the “second big lie”.  That John Giduck was somehow the only American onsite at Beslan or who cared enough (“about the children”, of course) to have visited the school in the days and weeks afterwards.   to me, the “second big lie” validates that John Giduck wasn’t anywhere near the school is the days after the attack.  Had John Giduck actually been taking photos and measurements as claimed, he certainly would have noticed the US Congressional Delegation that spent significant time there.  John Giduck has never addressed this discrepancy in why he (and his group of sychophants) continued to claim that the US Government never had information about Beslan or visited the school.

If, in fact, Tracy has some knowledge beyond that which is contained in John’s book, “Terror at Beslan” XXXXXXXXXXXXXX he should consider ceasing to indulge in spurious character assassination, and disclose this information so that it can be added to the cumulative knowledge base and imparted to the LE and government personnel we train on a daily basis. Should anyone want to know what your colleagues around the country have thought of this book, look at the reviews on Amazon.com.

I guess that the sad task of exposing liars such as John Giduck and Walter Chi is character assassination in their books.  As for the the reviews on Amazon, most of the comments from 2005-2007 appear to be astroturfed (or posted by the author or the author’s supporters).

If this information is not enough, none other than the famous Lt. Col. Dave Grossman has not only spent substantial time with John going over the Beslan events, but authored the Foreword to John’s book, writing, that” John Giduck is one of a few men in the Western world who had the knowledge, connections and ability to find out what really happened”. Had the author of the 18 March 2007 post done his research he would understand the credibility of this statement by a gentleman of irreproachable qualifications.

Are you refering to the Dave Grossman that teaches others about killing and developed a “killology” but has never killed anyone or been in harm’s way?  The same guy that uses “hooah” and “airborne ranger” in seemingly every other sentence yet never actually served in a Ranger battalion?  Oh yeah, those irreproachable qualifications.  Thank you, Walter Chi, for confirming that Dave Grossman worked with John Giduck on the details of John Giduck’s book.  You’ve confirmed for us that Dave Grossman is likely part of the lie and, even though a former West Point instructor, has no trouble spending time in the company of dishonorable men such as John Giduck.

Upon request from a verified member of the U.S. military, law enforcement or government communities, Archangel will provide any references in question when inquiries are submitted professionally.

All of the questions about John Giduck remain unanswered….on purpose. Facts and other documentation simply are not on John Giduck’s side. If John Giduck is what he’s claimed, this could have been easily resolved in  That’s why I believe that John Giduck really should appeal the court’s ruling and try to take this to court.  Let’s get idiots like Walter Chi on the stand under oath and see how quickly they either perjure themselves or the whole farce of the legend of John Giduck falls apart.  Let’s get Shari on the box (she knows what I mean) and see what foreign intelligence officials have really visited her home or what foreign connections the person she lives with has.

To Walter Chi, I say:  you wrote it, you own it.

SEE ALSO

A Review of John Giduck’s False Special Forces Legend

John Giduck: A Case Study In Tactical Ineptitude – Part 2

An Open Letter to LTC Dave Grossman About John Giduck

Why Did John Giduck Flee to West Virginia In 1993?

The longer that Dave Grossman remains silent about his curious business relationship with John Giduck, the less it appears that  LTC Dave Grossman has been an unwitting stooge for John Giduck’s apparent con game on taxpayers and law enforcement organizations since 2005. My opinion continues to solidify that Dave Grossman may be part of the false charade involving John Giduck’s circle of friends that is designed to convince law enforcement and military customers that John Giduck has done things that John Giduck hasn’t and been places that he  hasn’t.

“If I could tackle every American and make them read one book to help them understand the terrorist’s plan, it would be Terror at Beslan by John Giduck. Beslan was just a dress rehearsal for what they’re planning to do to the United States,”

LTC Dave Grossman

Since Dave Grossman seems to still believe the above quote, let’s look at the facts and evidence within the context of the events at Beslan. In this case, we’ll examine the factually incorrect foreward that Dave Grossman wrote for John Giduck for the book, Terror At Beslan.  Here is one of the relevant portions:

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page 13, Terror At Beslan

The problem with Dave Grossman’s foreward is that so many key portions of it are factually untrue.

Let’s look at each portion in more detail.

JOHN GIDUCK WASN’T “THERE”

This part of the John Giduck false legend makes me laugh the most. Dave Grossman starts off by making this ridiculous claim:

John Giduck was there.

If Dave Grossman means “Colorado” with the use of the word, “there”, then this statement might be true. Any insinuation that John Giduck has any sort of first hand observations about Beslan is intellectually dishonest. The conversations captured in Terror At Beslan that allude to ongoing tactical operations at Beslan while John Giduck was in Russia constitute academic dishonesty in my opinion. Grossman now has the facts – silence constitutes consent to such dishonesty.

JOHN GIDUCK DIDN’T ARRIVE IN BESLAN ANYTIME CLOSE TO THE SIEGE

LTC Grossman goes on to repeat another very carefully managed yet fabricated detail of the John Giduck false legend:

When he heard what was happening, he [John Giduck] bought a ticket and arrived at Beslan as the last mopping up operations were taking place.

John Giduck’s arrival at Beslan at the “conclusion of the battle” and “as the last mopping up operations were taking place” aren’t just a fantasy, they have been been shown to be outright lies which are unsupportable by John Giduck’s own timeline for the events as they unfolded.

What surprises me most here is that Dave Grossman trains law enforcement officers.  He knows the importance of timelines in establishing facts. Let’s look at some of the key elements of the timeline:

The time zone difference between Moscow and Colorado is 10-11 hours: Day one of the Beslan siege was likely nearing an end at the time that John Giduck may have first heard about what was going on.  John Giduck admits that he was in Colorado when he first heard about Beslan. When it’s 5pm in Moscow, it’s 6am in Colorado.

John Giduck had a visa issue: Russia tourist visas are issued for specific entry dates, specific exit dates, and specific locations. By his own admission made during a 2008 podcast, John Giduck meeded to have a visa issued.  Visas are only issued by the Russian Embassy in Wash. DC or one of the three Russian consulates in the US.  Receiving a visa from any of these locations would have required physical travel or FEDEX of documents between Colorado and the visa issuance location. Calls to the Russian has verified that the MINIMUM time for the issuance of a Russian tourist visa is measured in weeks.

Travel to Moscow from Colorado takes almost a full day:  The reality of logistics is an unforgiving mistress.  There is also only one flight per day from Moscow to the small town of Beslan (around noon daily).

The Belsan siege days of the week were from Wednesday through Friday:  This is important as you’ll see below.

Why John Giduck’s timeline (and Dave Grossman’s support of this false timeline) doesn’t work

if John Giduck heard about the events in Beslan when he first woke up at 6am, it was already 5pm in Moscow of Day One (wednesday). Accordingly to the book, Terror at Beslan, there were a set of conversations that took place around who to take to Moscow, etc. It is unlikely that these conversations took place at 6am so it was easily Thursday morning Russia time by the time that everyone was on-board and a plan was in place.  John Giduck still needed a visa so even if he hopped on a plane to San Francisco, went to the Russian consulate, and the consulate overnighted his visa, it would be Friday Russia time. John Giduck would have still had nearly a day’s flight to Russia.

According to John Giduck’s latest version of his timeline, John Giduck received his visa on 3 September 2004 within 24 hours of his application and arrived in Beslan on 5 Sept 2005.  According to the Russian consulate, this is highly improbable. If John Giduck didn’t receive the visa on that Friday, the earliest that he could have received the visa is Monday, 6 September.

READ MORE: John Giduck Clings To Flawed & Improbable 5 September 2004 Beslan Arrival

My theory based on the available information is that John Giduck didn’t travel to Russia until sometime after 13 September 2004. Amazingly, there is some evidence in the book, Terror at Beslan, that supports this timeframe for travel.  John Giduck establishes that he spent ten days in Russia on his first trip…

By the time that I arrived back in the United States from the siege, some ten days after it ended,…

page 178, Terror At Beslan

and then John Giduck seems to forget this lie later in the book by saying that he actually returned to the US in “late September 2004”

As I was leaving Moscow for home in late September 2004, …

page 232, Terror At Beslan

Fortunately for seekers of the truth, self published books like Terror at Beslan generally don’t have professional editors reviewing the text.  This means that such errors as the above generally aren’t caught.

I also believe that John Giduck only went to Moscow during the initial 10 day trip.  I don’t believe that John Giduck arrived in Beslan itself until his trip on November 2004.  This corresponds to dates of  the first photos of John Giduck i front of the Beslan school.

Dave Grossman goes on to say..

One purpose of this book is to record and remember

I agree.  I just don’t believe that LTC Grossman knew just what this book would ultimately record. Basic facts about the events at Beslan are incorrect. My belief is that this is likely due to John Giduck holding conversations in Moscow with third parties privy only to second hand information about events in Beslan.

Is Dave Grossman part of the circle of charlatans like John “Andy” Anderson, MSG Jim Hetrick, Chester PA Police Commissioner Joe Bail, and others sent to convince you with false facts that John Giduck is who he says that he is because THEY say so?  In the absence of a response by Dave Grossman, read the facts above and make the decision for yourself.

SEE ALSO

Giduck Flows Downhill: Grossman, Giduck, Foreign Intelligence, Real Crimes, And More

An Open Letter to LTC Dave Grossman About John Giduck

John “Andy” Anderson Doubles Down On John Giduck

On Scene Beslan Photographer Hammers John Giduck

Revisiting MSG Jim Hetrick’s Support Of The Coward John Giduck

Dave Grossman not only has a close supportive friendship with John Giduck but also a business relationship.  Dave Grossman has sold John Giduck’s books at his seminars and also routinely recommends John Giduck as an alleged authority on school shootings such as the Sandy Hook tragedy.

One has to wonder on this Christmas Eve if Dave Grossman is a willing participant in John Giduck’s apparent circle of friends involved in alleged crimes and foreign intelligence connections.

Here is what we know about John Giduck and his friends:

High Level Foreign Intelligence Contacts: John Giduck has a reoccurring habit of introducing his close friends and business associates such as John “Andy” Anderson to high level Russian intelligence officials often at John Giduck’s residence.  Has Dave Grossman been introduced to these Russian friends as well?

Read more: Why John Giduck, Archangel Group, and Russian Intelligence Make Good Bedfellows

John “Andy” Anderson: Nuke Clearance Holder & Friends With KGB/FSB Officers Through John Giduck

ITAR Violations: There is strong evidence that John Giduck has violated US and international ITAR statutes by providing defense consulting to various foreign entities without the required license from the US Department of State.  There is even a “smoking gun” in the form of a conversation captured by a journalist in which John “Andy” Anderson and John Giduck clearly (and stupidly) are providing defense consulting services to rebel groups in the Sudan.

Read more:  Evidence Shows John Giduck And John “Andy” Anderson Violated International Arms Trafficking Regulations

Violations of the PA State Ethics Act: John Giduck and Chester PA Police Commissioner Joseph Bail appear to have intentionally violated the Pennsylvania State Ethics Act in the form of gifts to Joe Bail’s Police Dive Team in excess of $20,000.  Worse yet, the evidence seems to show that this gift is an honorarium for consulting services provided to John Giduck’s company, Archangel Group, for consulting performed by Joe Bail himself.

Read more:

Have John Giduck And Joseph Bail Violated The PA State Ethics Act?

John Giduck & Joe Bail: Timeline Supports $20k+ Honorarium For Consulting Services

John Giduck’s Associations With A Group That May Have Bombed A US Embassy:  Someone out there help me figure out how Dave Grossman of all people could be supportive of someone like John Giduck who has deep connections into a group that the Washington Times says bombed a US Embassy. Perhaps there is some truth to Dave Grossman’s seemingly baseless assertion that “John Giduck is one our nation’s leading experts on Terrorism” after all when we factor in John Giduck’s self admitted ties to such groups. This being that John Giduck had no verifiable or recognized terrorism credentials prior to 2011.   Could it be that Dave Grossman knew of these ties before the rest of us did?

Read more:  John Giduck’s Ties To A Group That May Have Bombed A US Embassy

John Giduck’s Sexual Relationship With A Woman Known To Have Planned The Murder Of A Police Officer: This is another well documented incident that makes me wonder about what Dave Grossman is thinking in terms of John Giduck.  Dave Grossman sells his services to law enforcement yet maintains and promotes a relationship with John Giduck who, as a defense attorney, ran off to Jamaica to apparently sex up a client of his.  This woman, Donna Yaklich, paid two men to kill her husband who was a Pueblo CO undercover law enforcement officer

Read more: Is Dennis Yaklich Speaking From The Grave About John Giduck?

John Giduck Omits Key Donna Yaklich Facts

Violations of FARA Statutes: If John Giduck actually did receive intelligence and counter surveillance training  in Russia as he has claimed on multiple documented occasions and did not properly register with the US Attorney’s office, John Giduck would be in violation of Federal FARA statutes.

– John Giduck’s Allegiances Towards The Russian Military:  John Giduck has demonstrated clear allegiances to his Russian military friends.  This includes blurring out Russian military intelligence officials while at the same time exposing the personal details of serving US Special Forces soldiers.

Read more: John Giduck Won’t Compromise Secret Russian Soldiers – US Soldiers? No Problem!

John Giduck’s Claims To Be A US Army Ranger: Dave Grossman is a graduate of the US Army Ranger School.  Why isn’t he just kicking John Giduck’s lying punk ass for making similar claims?

Read more: John Giduck Did (Not) Provide A 2005 Bio Claiming To Be An Army Ranger

John Giduck Did (Not) Tell The Hamilton County Police Association He Was An Army Ranger

John Giduck has clearly involved other close friends and business associates in his “reindeer games”.   Any reasonable person has to wonder where does LTC Dave Grossman fit into all this given his unwavering support in the face of all this evidence?

LTC Grossman?